Thursday, December 25, 2008

The Impossible Argument

I am an open minded person. I really mean that, I am. My friends will tell you that I always look at all sides of an issue, and that I refuse to judge people based on their political or social beliefs. Casting judgment on people for such things is trivial and wrong, and it's what's set our country back for the past eight years. That's the truth. But all that being said, there is one issue that I cannot see both ways on. And that is the issue of gay marriage.

Let me say this here, and now, and let me be absolutely clear about it. If you are against gay marriage, if you have made a part of your life to vote against gay rights and to voice the opinion that allowing a man to marry another man, or a woman another woman, is evil and anti-American, then you are 100% entirely wrong. Your argument has no truth to it, it is not based in reality, and you are stubborn, foolish, and wrong. There is just no two ways about it. It's black and white, really.

Why do people oppose gay marriage? Well, the most common reason is probably the bible. After all, as it says in the Leviticus 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Seems pretty cut and dry right? Don't screw another man. But the Bible is a book, and like any book, it's subject to the context of it's time period. So what's the context? Well, first of all, the world isn't so old, that is, there aren't as many people on it. So reproduction of the human race, for no other reason than human survival, is a serious concern. Therefore, since two men can't possibly reproduce, it's forbidden. Nowadays, expanding the population has ceased to be as much of an issue, because of, well, you know, insane overpopulation.

Ok, fine, so let's say that's not enough for you. "It's not meant to be looked at that way, the Bible is the written word of God, his truth on paper." Great. Well, in that case, let's not pick and choose, if we're going to take this verse literally, we've got to take them all literally, right? So, according to the Bible, a father can sell his daughter into slavery to cover a debt (EX 21:7-11), we can kill any man who refuses to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law (GE 38:8-10, again, population), and, sure, why not, if a person has sex with an animal, you must kill both the person, and the animal (LE 20:15-16). But hey, did you see what that sheep was wearing? She was asking for it! The point being that a ton of laws in this book are dated. They don't hold up today because the world has changed. Evolved, even.

Let's say that still isn't enough for you. "Sanctity of marriage," you say. "If we allow homosexuals to marry, we'll have to allow pedophiles, animals, where will it end?" First of all, what the hell is "sanctity of marriage?" Someone, explain that to me. Because Britney Spears can go to Vegas, get married, and then get divorced, all in 24 hours, but two gay men who are devoted to each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together are defiling the "sanctity of marriage." Straight couples break up all the time. It's called "divorce." And oh yeah, the Bible prohibits that one too (MK 10:2-12, LK 16:18). As for this business about "where will it end," I don't even know what that means. The civilized world is never going to let a grown man marry a five year old child, and when you can find a shark that wants to marry a bear, you let me know, and I'll go through Rabbinical school and wed them myself. I mean that.

The inevitable end of our nation.

Wait a minute, wait a minute. I haven't even thought of the children! Our nation's future is at stake here! If we've got openly married gays working in our schools, libraries, swimming pools, etc, it's going to rub off, isn't it? They'll turn the kids gay! What a steaming load of shit. There's not a shred of proof for this argument. Not a lick. A homosexual child can be born to two straight parents just as a straight child can be born to two homosexuals. It's as simple as that.

But at the end of the day, it's as simple as this-if you think you're fit to judge other people's lifestyles, and take away their basic rights as human beings, then buddy, when they come for your rights, you can't say a word. And we've been down that road already. Someday, our children will look back on this time and say, "I can't believe there was a time in human history that people were denying other people of the right to get married." At least, I sure as hell hope so.

Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.



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David Pratt said...

Here's a little-acknowledged fact. The passage in Leviticus referring to gay sex as an abomination pertains to pagan practices of having orgies while in worship of false idols. The scripture is condemning having any god before God, something He made His feelings very clear on in the Ten Commandments. Homosexuality itself was never even the intended target.

andy said...

i totally disagree.


also the very words "homsexuality" and "heterosexuality" first appeared in the english language just before the turn of the 20th century. this idea of marriage only being between a man and a woman seemed to grow corresponding with suburbanization, industrialization, and the tightening focus on the family unit that was required to keep american capitalism functioning properly during the war plagued 20's, 30's, 40's, etc.

and also, to "problematize" your argument, what about the fact that gay marriage did not show up on the gay rights platform until the late eighties? "marriage became the dominant issue in lesbian and gay politics in the 1990's, but not before. if marriage is so fundamental to a program of rights, why did gay men and lesbians resist it over the twenty five year period of their most defiant activism?"- from The Trouble With Normal by Michael Warner. could gay marriage be more of a campaign led by class privileged liberal gay people who want their piece of the pie? there's definitely a healthy portion of the gay community who resist the fight for gay marriage because they wish not to be assimilated into the mainstream, normal world of state control and surveillance.

just an interesting thought i had while reading this. my grandmother told me she was again gay marriage because of "how she was raised." as you say, this is the impossible argument, how can i tell her she's wrong?

Daniel said...

I see what you're saying, but just because some gay people aren't for marriage, that doesn't mean the others don't deserve access to it.

recently, my mother was working on a case trying to get captions on the Jerry Springer show. The main argument made by the opposed was "why do we need to caption this? It's junk, it's crummy television." But it doesn't matter. It's not their job to judge what deaf people can and cannot watch. Even if there are those who want to keep marriage out of the gay community, you can't allow them to govern the others. If there are two gay people, even if there were just two in the whole world, who wanted to get married, it would be a violation, and is a violation, of their basic rights to tell them they can't.

as for your grandmother, just explain where spiders come from and she'll come around.

Jackie said...

In response to the "I was raised that way" idea: I was raised a pretty conservative republican and now I am a pretty liberal democrat. I think at a certain point you just have to make decisions for yourself and stop trying to blame it on your parents. Blame them for why you have to go to therapy every month, not for choosing your ideas and morals.

B.Graham said...

bravo, Jackie!

B.Graham said...

And of course, bravo Daniel....